My history on this topic is available for all to see on the Internet, as doing a Google search on my name will reveal. I had an extraordinary experience severing my ties with Scientology, which I have written about elsewhere. Twelve years after leaving, I discovered Steve Hassan’s book, Combatting Cult Mind Control (CCMC). Although I had moved on with my life, I still was unable to find a satisfying explanation for what I went through. I was also still searching for a satisfying career in life and at the time was doing some soul-searching as to what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. I happened upon Steve Hassan’s book, CCMC, one day in the bookstore and was so fascinated, I could not put it down. It seemed to explain everything I had gone through, 12 years before in Scientology.
However, I decided not to take his advice. I did not go to Wellspring and did not seek therapy but instead chose to educate myself on evidence-based practice and critical thinking about unfounded therapeutic claims. That is one of the best decisions I have ever made. I thought things through very carefully. I also, through introspection, observed that when I thought about my experience through the lens of Steve's narrative of being a victim of Callahan's alleged "mind control" I felt very upset, anxious and confused, even panicky. Had I gone that way, I'm sure I would have displayed all kinds of "post-cult" symptoms. For all I know, I may have been in "post-cult therapy" for years dealing with those suggested "symptoms". That would have been good for the pocket book of someone promoting such therapy, but probably not so good for my emotional well-being. In contrast, when I looked at the situation from an educational perspective of analyzing where I went wrong and what I needed to know more about, I felt much calmer, empowered and on the road to healing from the entire situation because I learned what my errors were and what I might have done differently. I took responsibility for my mistakes rather than playing the victim of "mind control" role. This might not apply to everyone who has gotten involved with a cult, since in some cases there was deception and nothing the person could have done differently, but it was definitely the case with my experience in TFT. Even in those cases where there was deception, though, I think we need to remain open to the possibility that developing good critical thinking skills might prevent being lured in, at least for some people
It was then that I began to doubt universality of Steve’s theories and explanations of “cult mind control” which to me just did not seem to fit my experience with TFT. Note that there is no evidence that hypnosis even has this kind of power over people and even the idea of a "trance" state is highly controversial, let alone the idea that Roger Callahan was doing anything like that. He most certainly was not. TFT is not “hypnotic”. Although I had plenty of criticism for Roger Callahan, I really could not honestly accuse him of “mind control”.
At the same time I had been reading about narratives people put to symptoms and experiences they found puzzling (for example, people who believe they were abducted by aliens or had multiple personalities, as an explanation for symptoms and other troubles they were having in their life). It dawned on me that the “cult mind control” narrative seems to work that way for people who have had experiences in groups such as Scientology that they could not explain. However, using that narrative to explain my experiences with TFT seemed a real stretch, so I rejected it and even stated that I did not consider it a “cult” and that I took full responsibility for my mistakes. While the "mind control" model, especially if it is defined in terms of undue influence does fit some people's experience with some cults, it is far from as universal as is commonly believed in the anti-cult movement.
Someone could be away from a “cult” for 30 years, and yet in anti-cult circles, if they exhibit any behavior that anti-cult activists don’t like, it is attribute to their being un-recovered ex-cult members, a label I have had slapped on me whenever I questioned some anti-cult dogma. Recently, one person who had been out of Scientology for 27 years referred to him self as a “recovering ex-cult member.” It seems there is no end to the “recovery’ process for some people and I have to seriously question how healthy that is. I have been called an un-recovered ex-cultist who needs years of intensive therapy by some supporters of Hassan because I dared to challenge some recent statements Steve has made to the press about the death of Jett Travolta.
If people have spent many years in a group that was isolated from society, of course they are going to have culture shock returning to mainstream society, as well as other difficulties, especially if they experienced abuse and trauma. That is very real and I do not mean to minimize anyone’s pain. People in need of therapy after such an experience should by all means seek it out with a competent professional. Rather, my point is that many people leave these groups and begin to attribute every difficulty they are having in life, being told they will need years of therapy to recover, (as Steve Hassan and others have been known to tell people). That is what needs to be challenged and questioned. The studies showing high rates of post-cult symptoms were done with samples of people who had been exposed to anti-cult narratives or people who were having difficulties and sought professional help. Not included in these samples are people who left these groups and did not have such difficulties. Not everyone needs to be in therapy for this. With any kind of trauma, research shows that only a minority go on to develop post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and there is no reason for this to be any different with cults. Moreover, not everyone in cults even experienced trauma.
What concerns me is that people leaving these groups are often confused and seeking explanations for what they just went through and the cult mind control narrative can look very inviting. I just have to question if it is helpful in all cases or if for some people, more harm than good is being done. When people are labeled as having “post-cult syndrome” and needing years of therapy, this could become a self-fulfilling prophecy, just as it has been for people who have had other sorts of narratives imposed on them. As Richard J. McNally and Susan Clancy found in their research, people who believe they were abducted by aliens, manifested the same physiological signs as Vietnam veterans who had been traumatized in combat. They bought into that narrative (explanation for their troubles) and along with that, came all the very measurable physiological symptoms.
My concern is that, although not as exotic as being abducted by aliens, something similar could be happening with people who are being told they have “post-cult syndrome” and need years of expensive therapy to deal with it. Thus, I would say caveat emptor (buyer beware) when looking at websites of people who advertise so-called post-cult therapy. There is no evidence that this kind of therapy is superior to conventional therapy or even that it does no harm. At this point there is no research on it and we just don't know. It may be very helpful for some individuals, but not for others.
I'm not saying everyone should necessarily stay away from this sort of therapy. It may well be helpful for some people. I am not dismissing it out of hand. What I am saying is be wary of therapists who make unsupported claims of superiority and if you are in this sort of therapy with a self-proclaimed "expert" and you don't seem to be benefiting, you might want to reconsider. There are no good studies on this sort of "therapy," so listen to your gut. If you feel worse after week after week of such therapy, pay attention to that. In general, be very skeptical of therapists who tell you that you have to get/feel worse before you get better. All too often, that is nothing more than a line to keep people in endless therapy they will not benefit from. Undoubtedly there are some who say they have benefited and offer testimonials but we don't usually hear from the ones who did not or perhaps felt worse after the therapy. The same principles that apply to any form of therapy without support apply here. If you have had a troubling experience you cannot explain, it is very tempting to latch onto these kinds of explanations but they can sometimes come at a very high price, both literally in terms of dollars spent, and emotionally.
Monica, interesting blog. Earlier today, I posted a response to a message you had posted to Steve Hassan's freedom_of_mind Yahoo Group. Initially, my post seemed to have appeared on this list, but subsequently I have been unable to access the list. I just get a message saying: 'You are not a moderator of the group freedom_of_mind.' This may just be a temporary technical problem with Yahoo, or I may have been expelled from the list. I suspect the latter.
ReplyDeleteIf so, it tends to support your comment that: 'I also began to notice that at times Steve was quite intolerant if I publicly questioned or criticized things others in the anti-cult movement were doing.'
I am taking the liberty of sending a copy of my post. It was originally intended as a response to the message to Renee (copied at the end) you had posted on the above Yahoo Group, but is also relevant to your comments here in 'Releasing the Bonds of the Cult Mind Control Narrative'. Please feel free to edit my post as you see fit, or if it is too long for a comment on your blog.
' The elephant in the room'
Monica,
could you explain for me what the elephant in the room is, what the 'very real issues here that need to be
discussed' actually are, as you see them?
Having read the blogs you mention, and the old FOM list, and some other material, it seems to me that the issues within the 'anti-cult movement' (to use a not entirely satisfactory term) that need to be discussed are:
!. A tendency to over jargonise. For example, the metaphor of 'cult identity' (that cult members tend to adopt a contrived 'Stepford' personality) gets expanded into a theory about developing several subpersonalities, and then finally into a theory about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). Or IOW, that a whole theoretical edifice gets built on the foundation of what was originally only a (perfectly valid and useful IMO) metaphor.
2. A tendency to over-generalise, and a reluctance to acknowledge that individual experience within any given cult may vary considerably - that the consequences of cult involvement may vary from hardly affected at all, through to very deeply affected, depending.
3. A tendency to polarisation of opinion - one tends to be sucked into either the so-called cult apologist camp (cults/NRMs aren't really any different to normal life, with all its normal pressures and travails), or the anti-cult movement (cults are a pernicious evil). Both camps can be, at times, equally dogmatic, and it seems difficult to establish any kind of middle ground.
A cumulative consequence of these tendencies is, perhaps, that some in the anti-cult movement tend over time to get more and more dug in, and tend to see cults everywhere, and tend to adopt an almost cult-like 'us vs. them' attitude. For example, in your blog
http://anticultcontroversies.blogspot.com/
in your Thursday, January 29, 2009 post, 'Releasing the Bonds of the Cult Mind Control Narrative', you write:
'[...] In 2004, I ended up realizing that I had made some serious errors in accepting TFT, that resulted in my discontinuing its practice. At that time I phoned Steve Hassan and told him about this. He immediately responded that I had been under Roger Callahan’s “mind control” and that TFT had been hypnotic. He advised me to get intensive post-cult therapy to deal with my experience with TFT, including going to a residential facility called Wellspring to recover.
'I decided not to take his advice. I did not go to Wellspring and did not seek therapy but instead chose to educate myself on evidence-based practice and critical thinking about unfounded therapeutic claims. That is one of the best decisions I have ever made. I thought things through very carefully. I also, through introspection, observed that when I thought about my experience through the lens of Steve's narrative of being a victim of Callahan's alleged "mind control" I felt very upset, anxious and confused, even panicky. Had I gone that way, I'm sure I would have displayed all kinds of "post-cult" symptoms. For all I know, I may have been in "post-cult therapy" for years dealing with those suggested "symptoms". [...]'
Although I don't know anything about TFT, I am strongly inclined to agree with you, Monica, that Steve was mistaken to jump to the conclusion that Callahan was using “mind control” and hypnosis on you, and that, in effect, TFT was a cult. (Though it might have been reasonable to talk in terms of Callahan/TFT exhibiting, to some degree, 'cult-like behaviours'). So this seems to me to be, possibly, an example of over jargonisation/over-generalisation/polarised 'us vs. them' black and white thinking on Steve's part. A tendency to see everything through the lens of the 'mind-control narrative'.
I have previously quoted Neils Bohr's dictum: 'An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes, which can possibly be made, in a very narrow field.' (A L Mackay, Dictionary of Scientific Quotations, London 1994).
Nobody is completely right about everything, even within their own field of specialisation. Not even Einstein. We all make mistakes and errors of judgement from time to time. I completely agree with you that the anti-cult movement is a fringe movement at present, and that this is partly its own fault.
I think we all need to up our game (to use a footballing metaphor) if we are ever to win any major-league matches. I see Monica as rather like one of those fierce coaches you seem to get in films about sports teams, who upsets people in the begining, but later turns out to be right, and to have a heart of gold as well. I'm sorry I can't cite a particular film at the moment, but you get the picture.
--- In freedom_of_mind@yahoogroups.com, "mpignotti2001" pignotti@...
wrote:
>
> This is in response to Renee, who rather than respond to me directly,
> triangulates the situation by posting to another list serv where she
> knows she will not be challenged:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomofmind2/message/97
>
> Renee, if you think I am arguing about "nothing" you either haven't
> been around the anti-cult movement for long or are completely denying
> the issues that exist. It has repeatedly been my lot in life to be the
> one to point out the elephant in the living room, metaphorically
> speaking. For refusing to do that I get accused of being
> argumentative. That's what I am doing with the so-called anti-cult
> movement and there are obviously people who do not like it and want to
> put the focus on trashing me. I am not arguing just for the sake of
> arguing. That is a good way to keep denying the humongous elephant in
> the living room. There are very real issues here that need to be
> discussed. Obviously, there are people who would prefer we all just
> make nice with each other and pretend they don't exist. I refuse to do
> that. I realize that doesn't make me the most popular person in the
> world with Steve Hassan's devotees and other devotees of anti-cult
> dogma, but thankfully this is the Internet and free speech exists. I
> can get thrown off this tiny list serv or other lists servs of people
> who want to silence me, but this is an issue that you all can rest
> assured is not going to go away and cannot be so easily deleted. Based
> on various blogs that are popping up throughout the Internet, I am far
> from alone in my perceptions of these issues. You can rest assured,
> Renee, that I have no need to go "screaming" after anyone. I simply
> speak my mind. If you don't like it then you are perfectly free to
> ignore me and that will be just fine with me, but you and my other
> critics obviously are not ignoring me. But by all means, feel free to
> ignore the elephant in the living room and make me the target instead.
> Just realize that ignoring the issues will not make them go away and
> that is why the anti-cult movement continues to be the fringe movement
> it is.
>
> Monica
>
Mark -- many thanks for reposting your response. What happened is that Steve Hassan changed the settings for his new list serv so nobody can post except him. He has also closed all of the archives so no one has access to him. Talk about information control!
ReplyDeleteAs for what the "elephants" are, there are several!
I haven't had the expectation that Steve or anyone else be perfect. The problem was, as you point out, overgeneralization, but another point I wanted to make in recounting that experience re TFT is the power that a narrative can give to the way a person remembers an experience and retells their "story" about it. Some narratives can be empowering and others, much less so. In essence, I did a thought experiment on what it would be like to view my TFT experience from the "mind control" narrative Steve wanted to put to it, and I found it very unhelpful and it did not bring me peace, to say the least and I felt like a victim. By contrast, when I took responsibility for the experience I had and looked at it from the perspective of what I might learn from it and what I could have done differently. That, to me, was more empowering and helpful in my not repeating the same kind of experience and how to be skeptical, yet still open to legitimate innovation.